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ГТ превращается в Кинопоиск?
Кто как, а я уверен, что фильм не разочарует. Трейлер отличный. Атмосфера, похоже, в фильме будет на высоте.
JJ Abrams уже снял Стар Трек, что получилось судите сами.
Я оригинального старого Стар Трека совсем не фанат, я к нему даже в детстве был равнодушен.
Но фильм 2009-го года под режиссурой Абрамса, на мой вкус, получился хорошим. Оценка 8/10 на IMDB подкрепляет мое субъективное мнение.
Но фильм 2009-го года под режиссурой Абрамса, на мой вкус, получился хорошим. Оценка 8/10 на IMDB подкрепляет мое субъективное мнение.
Я просто приведу ревью с IMDB:
Star Trek is now a rip-off of Star Wars
11 May 2009 — 560 out of 905 users found this review helpful.
Darth Vader, err, Darth Maul — umm, I mean Nero — has this huge, gigantic awesome Death Star — err, I mean Mining Ship, that can destroy entire planets. So Nero blows up Alderaan — umm, I mean Vulcan, killing Princess Leia's father — I mean, Spock's mother. And then the Death Star homes in on the Rebel Base — Umm, I mean the mining ship homes in on Starfleet headquarters, and only Luke Skywalker can stop it by ignoring orders and turning off his targeting computer and trusting the Force — no, I mean only Jim Kirk can stop it by ignoring Starfleet's orders and trusting his instincts. It's a good thing Old Ben Kenobi was there to give Kirk that fatherly advice earlier — no, wait, that was Captain Pike.
And then they had a big old celebration, and Luke and Han got medals — err, I mean, Jim Kirk got a medal and was made captain.
This movie was terrible.
The sad thing, I was actually loving it, totally suckered in, emotionally caught up in the film, and then it just got really stupid.
The movie totally lost me when Spock threw Jim Kirk off of his ship and made him go down to the Ice Planet of Hoth. Why would Spock do that? Why would ANY Starfleet officer abandon one of their own on a frozen planet full of deadly Wampas during the middle of an interstellar war — err, interstellar terrorist event?
Spock should have been court-martialed for that. No commanding officer in any military organization would ever do that, anywhere, any time, for any reason.
Luckily, the evil tattoo-faced bad guy, Darth Maul — umm, Nero, did THE EXACT SAME THING to his sworn enemy, Old Spock, who showed up just in time to save Kirk, which was really lucky, because Kirk didn't have his lightsaber handy to cut off the snow-monster's arm.
So Spock and Nero are morally equivalent with each other, both banishing their enemies to a frozen wasteland. How symmetrical.
Thankfully, this happens to be the exact same planet that Montegomery «Scotty» Scot was also unfairly banished to! What a lucky coincidence!
Old Spock knew Kirk and Scotty in the future! And in the future, Scotty figured out a way to magically beam onto a ship moving faster than the speed of light half a galaxy away! And Old Spock remembers how he did it! Yay! Magic!
Now, smart people would have used this trick to beam the bad guys off of their own ship, and into the vacuum of space, where they would have died, and Earth would have been saved.
This movie is not about smart people.
The villain is a coal miner from the future. He hates Spock because Spock tried to save his homeworld from destruction. So it's Spock's fault? Why? Because Spock got there too late — did Spock stop off for some fast food or something? Why is it Spock's fault?
I mean, if I my planet were destroyed, and I got sucked a hundred years into the past, I would warn my planet, so they could start evacuating. I would use my enormous mining ship to start ferrying off the billions of refugees to a nice safe planet, not go around the galaxy destroying all of the most habitable worlds.
It's not just Nero who is mentally challenged, though. Old Spock needs only a few drops of «Red Matter» to turn a supernova into a black hole — but he's got like fifty gallons of it on board his ship. Why? Is that smart? Is that safe? What if a bunch of terrorists were able to get hold of all that Red Matter by capturing your puny little vessel? Duh! I think Old Spock is a bit senile.
Let's face it. Most of the Star Trek movies have sucked. And sadly, so does this one.
Star Trek is now a rip-off of Star Wars
11 May 2009 — 560 out of 905 users found this review helpful.
Darth Vader, err, Darth Maul — umm, I mean Nero — has this huge, gigantic awesome Death Star — err, I mean Mining Ship, that can destroy entire planets. So Nero blows up Alderaan — umm, I mean Vulcan, killing Princess Leia's father — I mean, Spock's mother. And then the Death Star homes in on the Rebel Base — Umm, I mean the mining ship homes in on Starfleet headquarters, and only Luke Skywalker can stop it by ignoring orders and turning off his targeting computer and trusting the Force — no, I mean only Jim Kirk can stop it by ignoring Starfleet's orders and trusting his instincts. It's a good thing Old Ben Kenobi was there to give Kirk that fatherly advice earlier — no, wait, that was Captain Pike.
And then they had a big old celebration, and Luke and Han got medals — err, I mean, Jim Kirk got a medal and was made captain.
This movie was terrible.
The sad thing, I was actually loving it, totally suckered in, emotionally caught up in the film, and then it just got really stupid.
The movie totally lost me when Spock threw Jim Kirk off of his ship and made him go down to the Ice Planet of Hoth. Why would Spock do that? Why would ANY Starfleet officer abandon one of their own on a frozen planet full of deadly Wampas during the middle of an interstellar war — err, interstellar terrorist event?
Spock should have been court-martialed for that. No commanding officer in any military organization would ever do that, anywhere, any time, for any reason.
Luckily, the evil tattoo-faced bad guy, Darth Maul — umm, Nero, did THE EXACT SAME THING to his sworn enemy, Old Spock, who showed up just in time to save Kirk, which was really lucky, because Kirk didn't have his lightsaber handy to cut off the snow-monster's arm.
So Spock and Nero are morally equivalent with each other, both banishing their enemies to a frozen wasteland. How symmetrical.
Thankfully, this happens to be the exact same planet that Montegomery «Scotty» Scot was also unfairly banished to! What a lucky coincidence!
Old Spock knew Kirk and Scotty in the future! And in the future, Scotty figured out a way to magically beam onto a ship moving faster than the speed of light half a galaxy away! And Old Spock remembers how he did it! Yay! Magic!
Now, smart people would have used this trick to beam the bad guys off of their own ship, and into the vacuum of space, where they would have died, and Earth would have been saved.
This movie is not about smart people.
The villain is a coal miner from the future. He hates Spock because Spock tried to save his homeworld from destruction. So it's Spock's fault? Why? Because Spock got there too late — did Spock stop off for some fast food or something? Why is it Spock's fault?
I mean, if I my planet were destroyed, and I got sucked a hundred years into the past, I would warn my planet, so they could start evacuating. I would use my enormous mining ship to start ferrying off the billions of refugees to a nice safe planet, not go around the galaxy destroying all of the most habitable worlds.
It's not just Nero who is mentally challenged, though. Old Spock needs only a few drops of «Red Matter» to turn a supernova into a black hole — but he's got like fifty gallons of it on board his ship. Why? Is that smart? Is that safe? What if a bunch of terrorists were able to get hold of all that Red Matter by capturing your puny little vessel? Duh! I think Old Spock is a bit senile.
Let's face it. Most of the Star Trek movies have sucked. And sadly, so does this one.
А на Кинопоиске пишут, что 95% из более, чем трехсот зарубежных критиков дали положительный отзыв на этот фильм.
Кому верить?
Кому верить?
Верьте кому хотите. Лично для меня JJ Abrams аналог Ubisoft или EA. Тот кто проникся оригинальным Стар Треком поймет. На очереди Star Wars.
Ну, это все субъективно в любом случае. Кому что нравится.
Я, например, субъективно считаю новых Судью Дредда и Робокопа отличным фильмами, а в рунете на них только ленивый не фыркал :)
Я, например, субъективно считаю новых Судью Дредда и Робокопа отличным фильмами, а в рунете на них только ленивый не фыркал :)
Неудачный пример, старый Судья Дредд на IMDB 5+, новый 7+, и фильм действительно получился удачным. С Робокопом все хуже, нет иронии и юморного треша как в старом фильме.
Что же касается сериала Стар Трека, в нем есть своя изюминка и особенная приключенческая атмосфера неводомого. А фильм Стар Трек похож на аттракцион с американскими горками. Вы тут рассуждаете, но я подозреваю что и не помните про что был сериал, так как в обсуждении ссылаетесь на общую франшизу, а не конкретно на Original Series.
Что же касается сериала Стар Трека, в нем есть своя изюминка и особенная приключенческая атмосфера неводомого. А фильм Стар Трек похож на аттракцион с американскими горками. Вы тут рассуждаете, но я подозреваю что и не помните про что был сериал, так как в обсуждении ссылаетесь на общую франшизу, а не конкретно на Original Series.
«Стар Трек» неплох, но к Star Wars он подошёл ещё ответственнее: натурные съёмки, декорации в натуральную величину и т.д. Главное, чтобы сценарий не подкачал, а с реализацией у Абрамса всё должно быть зашибись.
Очень даже неплохо получилось.
А вот мне интересно, минусующие считают, что фильм разочарует и атмосферы в нём никакой не будет, или им просто в вашей формулировке что-то не понравилось?
Не минусовал (даже возможности такой нет), но считаю, что разочарует.
Трейлер уже разочаровывает.
Атмосфера ЗВ не передана вообще никак, джедаев вообще стали считать мифом, Extended Universe убили, и на её останках пытаются что-то строить, причём идея нового сюжета не блещет новизной.
Имхо.
Трейлер уже разочаровывает.
Атмосфера ЗВ не передана вообще никак, джедаев вообще стали считать мифом, Extended Universe убили, и на её останках пытаются что-то строить, причём идея нового сюжета не блещет новизной.
Имхо.
Передать атмосферу ЗВ в трейлере невозможно, потому что она складывается из взаимодействия персонажей, а они тут едва разговаривают. Но визуально — техника, дизайн, локации — всё на уровне. Куда уж больше — разве что плёнку искусственно старить.
Атмосфера ЗВ не передана вообще никак
По-моему, в 1-3 частях атмосфера классических ЗВ передана еще хуже. Все какое-то картонно-лубочно-мультяшное, чему не хочется ни верить, ни сопереживать.
Визуальные решения седьмой части, судя по трейлеру, выглядят куда интереснее.
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